New York, NY -- "Moulin Rouge" may be the first musical up for Best Picture since "Fame" in 1980 -- but some music insiders doubt it will bring back the old musicals at all.

Producer Phil Ramone -- who has produced Frank Sinatra, Elton John and Bob Dylan -- says old-fashioned musicals are dead because modern audiences can't relate to people singing and dancing out of nowhere.

Despite "Moulin Rouge's" Oscar nominations, Ramone doubts future filmmakers will attempt musicals -- except for biographies about famous musicians where the songs are part of concert sequences.

Ramone will discuss music and film work on "The Score," an arts program debuting March 3 on the Trio cable network. In addition, he's a Grammy nominee for Best Musical Show Album for "Seussical: The Musical."

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